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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29160Post caaaant
January 15th, 2019, 1:50 pm

bilthebandit wrote:
January 15th, 2019, 1:12 pm
Looks like your set for the monster raving loonie party then JC !!!! ok that's 1 or 2 rungs up from this shower of inept tossers but the comment of "I could never vote for Corbyn" I find amusing as I think hes a more trustworthy and honest (not saying much) chap than 80 90 % of the shower in all parties.


Roll on tonight for another episode of the comedy party.
I find the argument for not voting Corbyn a bit weird, you are not voting for a person, but a party. I don't think there are many policies of his I disagree with. His personality is a bit meh...but then I prefer his to the swivelly eyed nutters in the Tory party, who I think are responsible for the mess the country are in. What harm can Corbyn do that hasn't already been done?


What Labour policies would you find unappealing and therefore impossible to vote for them?

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29161Post bilthebandit
January 15th, 2019, 2:29 pm

Its a bit like the ladies who buy a nice red or pink or green car coz its their fav colour Rich they don't think whats under the bonnet ect I just think will it get me from A to B reliably and don't give a shite what colour it is.

How anyone could be so stupid or blinkered to vote Tory atm is beyond me poor poker players if they cant see the obv tells given off by the majority of them!!!! ok with Labour your going allin with AK or mid PP but voting Tory is like calling for 100 bigs with A6 off Liberals your folding KK in BBjust coz you are worried oppo has AA with a SB shove.

Most of what you write I agree with Rich and its well written and tho out but in all honesty now prefer Dougies shoving allin with shite to see if the EU call or fold rather than wait for a better hand and meekly fold my chips away. :D :D :D

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29162Post Longines
January 15th, 2019, 2:51 pm

caaaant wrote:
January 15th, 2019, 1:50 pm

What Labour policies would you find unappealing and therefore impossible to vote for them?
Planning highest tax burden for 70 years
Envy driven pay ratio limits
Lots of 'free' stuff with no means testing
Guaranteeing pension triple lock
Extend HS2
No cap on immigration
Promising Brexit unicorns

There's probably some others.

PS Thinking Labour are mad /= Tories are not mad.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29163Post Longines
January 15th, 2019, 2:57 pm

PPS they're also the party that when in government introduced The Civil Contingencies Act - have a read of that sometime and then ask Tank if you can borrow his tinfoil hat.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29164Post bilthebandit
January 15th, 2019, 3:40 pm

Longines wrote:
January 15th, 2019, 2:51 pm
caaaant wrote:
January 15th, 2019, 1:50 pm

What Labour policies would you find unappealing and therefore impossible to vote for them?
Planning highest tax burden for 70 years
Envy driven pay ratio limits
Lots of 'free' stuff with no means testing
Guaranteeing pension triple lock
Extend HS2
No cap on immigration
Promising Brexit unicorns

There's probably some others.

PS Thinking Labour are mad /= Tories are not mad.
As oppossed to

Highest real term tax burden on low paid
Greed driven pay ratio
Lots of free stuff when they can get away with it.
Fuk the pensioners over wherever posible.
Extend Hs2 kickbacks for the boys.
Immigration = cheap labour for us.
Promising Brexit tax loopholes and bankers bonuses.

Theres deffo loads of others!!!!!!!


PS Labour prob mad /= Tories are thieving cauliflowers. :D :D :D

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29165Post caaaant
January 15th, 2019, 3:56 pm

Longines wrote:
January 15th, 2019, 2:57 pm
PPS they're also the party that when in government introduced The Civil Contingencies Act - have a read of that sometime and then ask Tank if you can borrow his tinfoil hat.
I'll have a read, but anything Blair did as a labour leader I would think is pretty bad. I do not see him as labour, he's more centre right and probably would sit well in the tory party. Anything that criminal did is probably bad.

Planning highest tax burden for 70 years - We need to pay more in tax if we want our essential services to work. Police/ NHS/ Fire Brigade/ Mental Health service/ Pensions. I would happily pay more. I think everyone should if we want a country that works, looks after people who fall on hard times, ex military, elderly, mentally ill etc. End the tax dodging cauliflowers.

Envy driven pay ratio limits - Fine with this in public sector and companies bidding for government contracts, which is policy. Not sure if envy is the right word.

Lots of 'free' stuff with no means testing - What free stuff? I take it you mean income support etc. See above, pay more taxes and get better services.

Guaranteeing pension triple lock - Good we should look after our elderly.

Extend HS2 - Agree a big waste, but the the Tories have ploughed on despite the fact no one wans it, money better spent on regional upgrades in the north mainly. Not a reason not to vote Labour though IMHO.

No cap on immigration - The cap is stupid. We never stick to any cap that is bandied about. Good idea to scrap the cap on skilled workers, we need them and always will. Pretty sure non-skilled migrants would see a cap. Again, caps are disingenuous and tie you into a figure which may not apply depending on needs.

Promising Brexit unicorns - I'm not sure if they have, their manifesto on brexit made more sense than the chaos we see now. I don;t think they could have fucked up the process as much as it is..

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29166Post Longines
January 15th, 2019, 4:46 pm

caaaant wrote:
January 15th, 2019, 3:56 pm

Lots of 'free' stuff with no means testing - What free stuff?
People on high incomes will be given free childcare, free tuition fees, free school meals - why? Make it means tested and target it on the lower paid.
Guaranteeing pension triple lock - Good we should look after our elderly.
With the ageing demographic it's populist nonsense to guarantee something that is going to make the current huge cost of pensions look like chicken feed in the future. Don't treat the electorate as idiots and promise jam for ever for everyone.
Extend HS2 - Agree a big waste, - not a reason not to vote Labour though IMHO.
Labour want to extend it, never mind cancel the current plans. Damn good reason not to vote for them IMHO.
Pretty sure non-skilled migrants would see a cap.
Not what their manifesto said.
Promising Brexit unicorns - I'm not sure if they have,
Corbyn quotes:
"Labour would seek a final deal that gives full access to European markets and maintains the benefits of the single market and the customs union"
“The option of a new UK customs union with the EU would need to ensure the UK has a say in future trade deals.”

Given the indivisible nature of the four freedoms that's pretty much wanting a unicorn cake to eat right there.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29168Post T8MML
January 15th, 2019, 5:26 pm

OMG Corbyn can’t really do anymore harm?? Really??

After 4 terms in Government the Tories were voted out but Blair was really a Tory in disguise? Typical Labour get out for whythey fkd up!!

When are people going to realise that the only box worth putting your cross against is None of the above!!

That said a Corbyn/Abbott Government would make the UK more laughable to the outside world than it already is!!

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29169Post Theadder4
January 15th, 2019, 5:58 pm

It suits all the major party's to sicken people so much that they think what's the point in voting for any of these cauliflowers.they are all the same.
Low turn outs at elections are right up their street.that way it's one party's Base support against the others Base support.
They not wanting people like me/us getting worked up about something and going to vote because of it.that puts it out of their control.and they don't want that.

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January 15th, 2019, 6:21 pm

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29171Post Theadder4
January 15th, 2019, 6:50 pm

Wonder what that prick david cameron is doing tonight.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29173Post Theadder4
January 15th, 2019, 7:13 pm

Voting,have these cauliflowers never heard of computers ffs,all this walking through lobbys nonsense.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29176Post T8MML
January 15th, 2019, 7:21 pm

Theadder4 wrote:
January 15th, 2019, 7:13 pm
Voting,have these cauliflowers never heard of computers ffs,all this walking through lobbys nonsense.
Perhaps they should vote using an app on their phones from home, the pub or brothel. Some traditions are worth keeping - plus it gives them five to go for a piss!

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29177Post tankbuster1
January 15th, 2019, 7:33 pm

I have to say if one of the Partys wore Armbands and maybe a nice uniform they would look better on the eye

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29178Post Theadder4
January 15th, 2019, 7:56 pm

Andrew marr destroying a tory mp just now.he wont/cant answer the question being asked,how the fuck did this clown ever be able to become an mp, no skills required obviously.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29179Post Theadder4
January 15th, 2019, 8:04 pm

Asked wheres plan B ,they never had a plan A ffs

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29181Post Theadder4
January 15th, 2019, 8:07 pm

Mathew hancock was the mp being destroyed (the health minister) and we wonder why the nhs is fucked :bang:

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29182Post bilthebandit
January 15th, 2019, 8:12 pm

Well Mrs May broke a long standing voting record which no doubt will enable her to move to the Lords after the great service she has done the last 2 years!!!!

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29183Post tankbuster1
January 15th, 2019, 8:16 pm

I bet you don't see any UKIP members being interviewed on BBC, CH4

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29184Post Theadder4
January 15th, 2019, 8:34 pm

Looks like MAY is going to win the no confidence vote tomorow,she must be doing a grand job,....you couldnt make this stuff up, a blow torch wouldnt give these politicians a red neck.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29185Post T8MML
January 15th, 2019, 8:48 pm

Theadder4 wrote:
January 15th, 2019, 8:34 pm
Looks like MAY is going to win the no confidence vote tomorow,she must be doing a grand job,....you couldnt make this stuff up, a blow torch wouldnt give these politicians a red neck.
Said it before Dougie, no fker wants this job at the mo - it’s un winnable!

Corbyn’s only chance is if Abbott does the count. He doesn’t want the PM job at the moment anyway, just posturing for the masses. When he was ranting did you notice a slight resemblance to a little German corporal who came to the fore because a country was in disarray?

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29186Post Theadder4
January 15th, 2019, 8:57 pm

Still cant get my head around most politicians wanting a vote that says under no circumstances will we leave with no deal
If it happens ,what insentive have the EU got to give us a better deal.
If they do decide to open up negoiations,whats to stop them giving us an even worse deal than is already on the table,what have they got to lose,we would have to accept it or remain in the EU (both would suit the EU ) as we have told them and voted on not leaving with no deal under any circumstances.
Its madness.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29189Post Theadder4
January 15th, 2019, 9:09 pm

Even if it went to another referendum,whats the point ? We vote to stay (its good for the EU) we vote to leave ,we have to accept any deal the EU want, as weve voted not to leave with no deal under any circumstances.

Same with another election,after it we either have to remain,or leave under any deal the EU offer us,as weve voted not to leave under no deal in any circumstances.
Rest if the world must be rubbing their hands together,at the thought of being able to negoiate trade deals with us,they wil be queing up to bum hunt us.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29192Post Theadder4
January 15th, 2019, 9:18 pm

Roll on tomorow,i love all this crap :D

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29193Post Theadder4
January 15th, 2019, 9:20 pm

Have to admit,the EU are playing a blinder here.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29194Post Theadder4
January 15th, 2019, 9:22 pm

Jacob rees mogg ,looks like he is straight out off an old nazi photo.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29195Post Marky147
January 15th, 2019, 9:29 pm

Theadder4 wrote:
January 15th, 2019, 9:20 pm
Have to admit,the EU are playing a blinder here.
Not sure they've had to much, I thought it was all quite clear from the outset :?

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29198Post 1875
January 15th, 2019, 9:49 pm

The fact that she can be defeated in that manner
and simply turn round and say
“See you all tomorrow”
Mind blowing, the woman should have resigned no question
Her list of achievements in her two and a bit years are the stuff of legend

No rush for the SNP now

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29199Post bilthebandit
January 15th, 2019, 9:50 pm

Cant argue with that statement and doubt anyone could do a worse job than this bunch have.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29202Post caaaant
January 16th, 2019, 8:26 am

T8MML wrote:
January 15th, 2019, 5:26 pm
OMG Corbyn can’t really do anymore harm?? Really??

After 4 terms in Government the Tories were voted out but Blair was really a Tory in disguise? Typical Labour get out for whythey fkd up!!

When are people going to realise that the only box worth putting your cross against is None of the above!!

That said a Corbyn/Abbott Government would make the UK more laughable to the outside world than it already is!!
Blair was probably the most evil, self-serving nob cheese of a PM we have ever had. To say he is right of centre is no lie, to say he would fit into the Tory party given his ideals is again pretty accurate.

I don't see how our International standing could get worse, look at the mess this bunch of self-serving bollock heads are still creating.
Tim, they could not do worse than this current lot.

I do tend to agree though, we have no real statesmen or women leading parties. MPs who give 0 fucks about their country, but 10,000,000,000 fucks about their own career and bank balance.

Now in the vote of confidence today, they will back her, not for the good of the country, but to save their seats.
Fucking rats the lot of them.

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