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Whoopie

Post: # 34385Post bilthebandit
October 17th, 2019, 1:14 pm

We got a great new deal that's sure to fly through parliament as Boris is certain after checking with Ms Abbot that he has got the numbers to push it past the pesky liberals and Jezza.

DUP being a bit noisy but a few bungs at the expense of American NHS speculators should get them to fall in line!!!!

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Post: # 34387Post Theadder4
October 17th, 2019, 3:35 pm

I think the remainers maybe fucked up this time bill.
They got a law saying if the pm didnt get a deal he would have to ask for an extension
He got a deal ,so he doesnt have to ask for one,and if the remainers vote the deal down,it leaves it open for us to leave without a deal without breaking the law.
Thats my reading of the situation anyway.

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Post: # 34388Post RichyPal
October 17th, 2019, 3:52 pm

It's a shame we ain't got a stand alone politics forum.....

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Post: # 34389Post bilthebandit
October 17th, 2019, 5:32 pm

Think you will find that's a deal ratified by parliament Dougie so no "get out of jail free card" there however the EU are likely and have said no extension unless an election or referendum and such like!!!! if Corbyn uses his head he should get a few of the labour MPs who want to or in constituencies who voted leave to back the Boris blunder deal .

Corbyns not comfy with EU and he could then capitalise on the complete mess which is coming our way easy to do if he says its a free vote .

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Post: # 34390Post Marky147
October 17th, 2019, 5:57 pm

Theadder4 wrote:
October 17th, 2019, 3:35 pm
I think the remainers maybe fucked up this time bill.
They got a law saying if the pm didnt get a deal he would have to ask for an extension
He got a deal ,so he doesnt have to ask for one,and if the remainers vote the deal down,it leaves it open for us to leave without a deal without breaking the law.
Thats my hope anyway.
FYP :D

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Post: # 34409Post Marky147
October 20th, 2019, 10:46 pm

https://twitter.com/lewis_goodall/statu ... 20418?s=09

Good write up of what transpired this weekend, and what's coming that one of the guys on Blonde posted.

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Post: # 34410Post bilthebandit
October 20th, 2019, 11:50 pm

Yup an interesting read not sure our impartial speaker Penfold will agree tho and he may well want to add amendments to your post!!!!

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Post: # 34432Post Theadder4
October 22nd, 2019, 4:13 pm

Have to laugh at all these mps standing up today ,saying we should have a second referendum so the people can choose.
The people did choose,these cauliflowers just didnt like their choice,and wouldnt accept it.
Do they really think if theres another referendum ,and the vote is to remain,that half the population is going to accept that,and that will be the end of it,no chance.

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Post: # 34441Post Theadder4
October 22nd, 2019, 7:39 pm

The remainers have stopped brexit again.

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Post: # 34443Post Marky147
October 22nd, 2019, 7:54 pm

Theadder4 wrote:
October 22nd, 2019, 7:39 pm
The remainers have delayed brexit again.
FYP ;)

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Post: # 34444Post bilthebandit
October 22nd, 2019, 8:00 pm

Yup disgraceful Dougie its akin to a goalie saving a pen should just not be allowed!!!!!

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Post: # 34445Post Theadder4
October 22nd, 2019, 8:00 pm

Just wish they would give us a straight vote.
Leave with no deal or remain ,i would be happy to accept the outcome of that vote.

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Post: # 34447Post Random1002
October 22nd, 2019, 10:51 pm

We voted exit - if there's another vote it should be :-
exit with a deal
exit without a deal

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Post: # 34448Post bilthebandit
October 22nd, 2019, 11:19 pm

That's your opinion Random and ofc you are entitled to it prob is others have equally valid opinions which they also are entitled to.

My opinion is Boris Gove Mogg and a good few others for THIER own benefit lied like fuk and suckered conned or just baffled millions of donuts into believing what they said and now plenty of these dummies have woken up ofc many more are still deluded stubbornly convincing themselves that they have not been taken for a ride.

Should have been out the door 3 years ago and tough titty to the 90% of us who got shafted is my thoughts but others prefer to fight on on behalf of the dimwits who got conned or indeed for their own benefit ofc.

I just like seeing the bastards squirm and hope it goes on for another 3 years hahaha.

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Post: # 34449Post Random1002
October 22nd, 2019, 11:40 pm

Well William I voted remain - but since the vote there is no going back. Can't imagine crawling back now saying sorry we made a mistake, our credibility is totally shot.

Best off getting out 2 years ago, but even now will just have to do.

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Post: # 34450Post T8MML
October 23rd, 2019, 1:41 pm

I’m with you Random. I voted remain but respect the decision despite believing there should have been parameters set for an exit. I also firmly believe that most those shouting the loudest about remain were those that were arrogant enough to believe it was a done deal and didn’t need to vote.

Living out here it’s cost us about 25% in lost exchange euros since we decided to come.

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Post: # 34454Post LittleMate
October 23rd, 2019, 10:39 pm

I was/am a remainer. Random, I agree with elements of what you say, but the original deal was actually to leave. By that everyone assumed in an orderly manner - so soft Brexit. I think parliament, as shit as it is, is trying to achieve that in spirit.

Personally I'd prefer another vote and my thinking goes something along the following lines. I cannot think of a single decision I made 3 and a half years ago that I would not want to reconsider today before signing on the dotted line. Tim, when you were in business there was not deal you could commit to at the time of the Brexit vote, to come into force today at 2016 prices. Nor would anyone decide in 2016 to marry someone in 2019 without reconsidering their decision.

It hardly matters to me because in the scheme of things I'm a lucky one. I looks like I'm weeks away from stepping back from day to day business affairs and I have a secure income until my dying day. My kids are well mannered, hard working and well educated. I have no concerns for them as individuals. I am concerned for the victims of Brexit. That will be the lower paid, the disadvantaged, those in the far away regions from London, those that voted in force for Brexit (except Jockland) . Its going to be tough, because the economy will shrink, and the ones that voted for this shit will moan that the politicians betrayed them and create a divisive society. The truth is that these Turkeys voted for christmas.

And breathe!!!!!

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Post: # 34459Post T8MML
October 24th, 2019, 11:17 am

I understand what you mean mate but I think very few outside of the Government understood how difficult even a soft Brexit would be to achieve. A bit like a pisshead coming home on a Saturday night, having a row with the Mrs and wanting a divorce the next day - you can’t just walk away. As for entering contracts in 2016 and expecting those prices in 2019, that’s exactly what we had to do as all our contracts were fixed price for the duration which was normally 3-5 years.

The problem is nobody ever thought Brexit would be voted for so no proper information was ever put to the public.

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Post: # 34461Post Scuffs
October 24th, 2019, 1:06 pm

Fucking hell Martin I’ve only known you to say so much whilst under interrogation🤣

The whole Brexit situation is a mess. People’s opinion differs.

And Breathe!!!

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Post: # 34464Post Theadder4
October 24th, 2019, 5:15 pm

Never known an opposition leader not wanting an election like corbyn.
First it was wait to we cant leave with no deal on the 31st (he got that ) wonder what his excuse will be this time.
If he believes in what hes saying,agree to an election and stand on a we are remaining in the eu ticket.

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Post: # 34465Post T8MML
October 24th, 2019, 6:03 pm

Theadder4 wrote:
October 24th, 2019, 5:15 pm
Never known an opposition leader not wanting an election like corbyn.
First it was wait to we cant leave with no deal on the 31st (he got that ) wonder what his excuse will be this time.
If he believes in what hes saying,agree to an election and stand on a we are remaining in the eu ticket.


If he does and then doesn’t win he will replace Kinnock as the biggest opposition fuck up from a position of strength at an election.

On top of that you can’t be an anarchist if you’re the one in power.

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Post: # 34466Post tankbuster1
October 24th, 2019, 9:12 pm

A real Leader of Men would have had us out within a Year on our Terms but they don't want us out they are all in the pig trough fking about for 3 years hoping we get sick of it and we just let them push any shitty deal through which really keeps us in the EU.

Its really not hard to leave but the so called People that lead us do not understand the "Most Important possesion you can own is your own people".
The number of Wars and the toil our Forefathers put in to create England and those fkers what to hand it over to the unnamed international Clique under the disguise of trade deals is a treasonous deal and they know it yet do not care

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Post: # 34468Post Random1002
October 25th, 2019, 12:22 am

tankbuster1 wrote:
October 24th, 2019, 9:12 pm
A real Leader of Men would have had us out within a Year on our Terms but they don't want us out they are all in the pig trough fking about for 3 years hoping we get sick of it and we just let them push any shitty deal through which really keeps us in the EU.

Its really not hard to leave but the so called People that lead us do not understand the "Most Important possesion you can own is your own people".
The number of Wars and the toil our Forefathers put in to create England and those fkers what to hand it over to the unnamed international Clique under the disguise of trade deals is a treasonous deal and they know it yet do not care
sieg heil min commandant

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Post: # 34473Post T8MML
October 25th, 2019, 10:03 am

The only leader of men we’ve had in my lifetime Tank was Maggie and she would have sorted it long ago!!

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Post: # 34474Post Theadder4
October 25th, 2019, 1:18 pm

Only prob with maggie tim,she showed the rest you can be corrupt and make a lot of money in politics without any comebacks (think it was £12 million,in her case) once blair and the other parasites realised that,they couldnt wait to get involved.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/mark ... 41851.html
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Post: # 34475Post silverfox46
October 25th, 2019, 1:22 pm

FFS! is this farce ever gonna end? when will the Labour Party finally realize the Corbyn/Abbot team are unelectable much like their other leader Kinnock. Whatever happens it's unlikely to effect me at my age, just get the fkin thing sorted. :bang: :bang:

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Post: # 34476Post bilthebandit
October 25th, 2019, 1:22 pm

Yup shes up there with Putin Stalin Mugabe Amin but didn't quite reach their heights!!!! not for lack of trying tho haha

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Post: # 34477Post Theadder4
October 25th, 2019, 1:25 pm

I Would add blair to that list bill.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politi ... viser.html

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Post: # 34479Post LittleMate
October 25th, 2019, 5:13 pm

T8MML wrote:
October 25th, 2019, 10:03 am
The only leader of men we’ve had in my lifetime Tank was Maggie and she would have sorted it long ago!!
As stern as she was, Maggie was a remainer!!

She knew the value of a good deal and fought like a tiger to get one.

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Post: # 34484Post bilthebandit
October 25th, 2019, 9:04 pm

Theadder4 wrote:
October 25th, 2019, 1:25 pm
I Would add blair to that list bill.

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/politi ... viser.html
Cant recall Blair ever taking back handers and tbh cant blame him for taking a wage just for giving advise or yapping and don't recall him deliberately harming the working guy although cant say I ever liked him too much but hes always been relatively honest and is the ONLY guy in my lifetime who could perform well on the world stage and is rarely wrong on his assessments of things.

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