Theadder4 wrote: ↑
December 7th, 2018, 8:06 am
Its just not right,no matter what you feel sbout brexit (remain or leave)
They are talking about another referendum,the two choices being vote for deal on the table or vote to stay in, this just doesnt seem right to me,
The people voted to leave,its the goverments fault they couldnt get a decent deal, the votes been done,so we should leave ,if parliement vote down the deal thats on the table,then we should leave with no deal, and build from there.
If we accept the deal on the table the EU are going to own us for years to come, people who think they are going to give us a good deal in the next couple of years of negoiations are dreaming,why should they,its bad for them if we leave and do well,
They are only wanting us tied up negoiating for years,and squeeze as much money as they can get out of us,which when we finally break free from them,will only have set us back a few years from getting on with building a better country,and will have cost us 100s of billions of ££££ in lost potential buisness and what we are paying them.
Ime starting to think this whole thing has panned out this way intenionally so we have to remain,politicians have never really been happy with the people deciding instead of them,democracy my arse .
Enough of this bullshit "the people voted to leave" FFS. 52% of the people who could be arsed to vote voted leave.They did niot have a fucking clue whatthat meant. Many were told we'd have a Norway style agreement, many though a complete cut, some thought they were voting to change the government, some to end immigration (which will not happen). So with all thatin mind, now we know what we are letting ourselves in for, let's have the choice. I'd like a vote this time, I was one of millions denied a vote last time. So no, the "people" did not speak, a minority of the people did.
It would be prudent to follow Australian law, where you must vote or you are fined. This way we will see accurately exactly what the people want.Why are you so scared of a 2nd referendum? Result will not go your way now the lies are exposed? Is that democratic? Can we change our minds? Did you love watching Jim'll Fix it when you were younger? What about now? Gary Glitter...how do you feel about him now? Wanna be in his gang!?
52% to 48% should never have been acceptable as a definitive result in the 1st place, either way leave or stay. To achieve a result most sensible governments stipulate a 60% majority. Our bunch of fuckwits in Parliament could not even run a referendum, never mind a negotiation.
Once more, all we hear is way too simplistic "leave, no deal". Ok - I'm open to that, now tell me what are the advantages over our current status, how do you deal with breaking the Good Friday Agreement (an international treaty we signed). Can you tell me how the car industry will manage? EURATOM, how will that work? Convince me to vote leave no deal, what's the advantage, to me and the country? Is it going to benefit the country? How? WIll GDP rise? Will we see better working conditions? What deals do we have in place or potentially have to replace the exports to our biggest trading partner? I would have a vote if we decide to run another referendum, so tell me why I should vote leave, no deal...