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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29577Post Longines
January 30th, 2019, 5:15 pm

There is an argument that May is playing a blinder if the intent is to blame the EU for not playing ball and deflect attention from the fact she is now voting against the agreement that she and her cabinet negotiated and approved!

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29578Post Garethherb
January 30th, 2019, 5:23 pm

Someone on the radio was talking about the cure for cancer today. Some wag said

"It isn't that difficult, I mean, it's not like Brexit"

I think that's a fair point. So many more problems than what was discussed in 2016.


If you think this bit is difficult, wait for the trade deals.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29579Post Garethherb
January 30th, 2019, 5:26 pm

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Longines
January 30th, 2019, 5:15 pm
There is an argument that May is playing a blinder if the intent is to blame the EU for not playing ball and deflect attention from the fact she is now voting against the agreement that she and her cabinet negotiated and approved!


Didn't they get parliamentary approval as well as cabinet for phase 1?

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29580Post T_F_L_S
January 30th, 2019, 6:08 pm

Dear Europe,

Either deal on terms acceptable to us or fuck off... :clap:

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29582Post Theadder4
January 30th, 2019, 6:23 pm

EU still saying no more negoiations.why would they say otherwise.weve told them we wont leave with a no deal.
so dont see the point in may going over with the begging bowl again.
why would they want to renegoiate again.they are delighted with the deal on the table.thats why all 27 countries support it.do you think if it was a bad deal for any one of those countries that it would have got voted through.
NO DEAL. MAKE BRITAIN GREAT AGAIN.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29584Post Marky147
January 30th, 2019, 6:50 pm

Make Britain great again, lol...

When was it?

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29589Post tankbuster1
January 30th, 2019, 10:44 pm

Marky147 wrote:
January 30th, 2019, 6:50 pm
Make Britain great again, lol...

When was it?
When they let Men marry Men i think

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29643Post bilthebandit
February 5th, 2019, 11:56 am

Has Mrs May sorted it all out now?????

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29645Post Random1002
February 5th, 2019, 8:16 pm

bilthebandit wrote:
February 5th, 2019, 11:56 am
Has Mrs May sorted it all out now?????
Don't know what she's fannying about at, there are 39 billion reasons for the EU to negotiate.
No deal - No cash - its simple really .....

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29646Post Garethherb
February 5th, 2019, 10:03 pm

TM says much of the £39bn cash will be paid no matter the deal as we owe it. A lot of it is for British civil servants pensions based in Brussels. It will reduce if no interim deal is done. However it maybe higher if deal is done as it doesn't count deductions of payments back to the UK. Also depends on how well the UK economy does up to the end of 2020 in comparison with the other EU countries.


Meanwhile in the last week banks have cleared £1Tn move out of Britain so far in investments to other EU countries. Based on making just 2% returns that works out to be £8bn in lost tax per annum.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29647Post bilthebandit
February 5th, 2019, 11:01 pm

Think its about 20 bn extra compo for em rest like you say already allocated.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29648Post Garethherb
February 5th, 2019, 11:22 pm

yeah Bill, but tax at 40% is £8 billion tax UK has lost. Still I suppose it will benefit our friends in Ireland, Germany etc.


That £160 Billion Barclays relocated was money belonging to 5,000 of its customers.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29654Post tankbuster1
February 6th, 2019, 6:33 pm

All this talk about Money and Backstops are nothing look at the Endgame
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rMDWAaxFnCA
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oZ3SHuc ... e=youtu.be

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29708Post Scuffs
February 8th, 2019, 4:27 am

I personally think we would be better off as a country if we were to stay in a bigger consortium such as the EU.
The fact that the EU have disregarded our opinions over the last few years have pissed 52% of the public off.

Now we are closer to a no deal brexit I’ve researched it a bit further. As from the 30th of March, without doubt Great Britain will be worse off with a no deal. The EU policy is that a deal has been done. Poppycock!!!

They are just playing hardball knowing there’s a time limit for our government to adhere to.

Like I said at the beginning I wished we stayed in but know I’ve looked into it we ahave the 5th biggest economy in a 243rd count of countries. The only countries that beat us are USA, China, Germany and Japan.

We don’t do bad as a country and we are head of the commonwealth.

The closer we get to a no deal then fuck em

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 29997Post Theadder4
February 22nd, 2019, 12:40 pm

A vast majority of mps voted for a no deal brexit on march the 29th if a deal was not agreed,why are they trying to get out of it now,
If they didnt want it to happen ,they shouldnt have voted for it.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 30022Post Garethherb
February 25th, 2019, 4:14 pm

I presume they had to have a default position for 29th March Dougie. The only other default was stay in and that would have been ridiculous.

I suspect TM saying no deal is better than a bad deal was political posturing and may not have been wholesome with the truth.

It's hard to tell with all the posturing but seems to me that only half the ERG are calling for no deal so still doubt that will happen. My money is on TM's deal or Norway + style arrangement or peoples vote. I hate peoples vote as said before. Norway + is too much like being in EU from your perspective (but fine for me). I still think TM might get her deal in the end. No deal looks nearly dead in my opinion.

Still a long way to go.

Now how long is another question.....

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 30023Post bilthebandit
February 25th, 2019, 6:48 pm

Fancy coming on here effectively saying TM is a lying cow!!!! Tim will be dismayed.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 30024Post Theadder4
February 25th, 2019, 7:02 pm

Fed up listening to them all,feel we are trapped now between a bad deal/and staying in the EU.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 30035Post Garethherb
February 25th, 2019, 11:06 pm

Neither of the two main parties had No Deal in their manifestos in 2017 general election. Only Ukip mentioned it. Just saying...

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 30036Post bilthebandit
February 26th, 2019, 12:47 am

Seems Teresa May has taken up pool !!! a strong and stable bridge a good follow through and her screwing back after years of practise screwing up screwing ppl over and swerving is her forte.
Plays a lot of cheque side for her banker buddies to cushion any blows they might receive but baulks at being honest and trustworthy.


Great at getting out of snookers but thats by deception and distraction and she has ofc never had any probs dispatching the yellows the reds ofc are another story but try and try again as she does to get rid of blacks is her Achilles heel as shown when she took on the Windrush generation!!!!!

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 30037Post LittleMate
February 26th, 2019, 7:35 am

Post that one after a session Bill?

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 30038Post bilthebandit
February 26th, 2019, 9:11 am

Nah Martin cant do sessions just barmy 24\7 haha story was from her playing and I use the term loosely against I think a frog minister she was certainly as good at pool as she is leading the country.

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 30093Post Theadder4
March 1st, 2019, 6:12 pm

Trumps not everyones cup of tea,wouldnt mind him negoiating for us on brexit though.
What he done is what may should have done,look at the deal ,see it doesnt suit us and walk away, thats what should have been done montts ago, let the EU know we are leaving at end of march with no deal,if we have to,and see what they came back to us with,
Not let them know that whatever they offer us we will not walk away with a no deal,as the wankers in the parliament have been doing for months,
They even going to vote a no deal of the table next week :bang:

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 30129Post Garethherb
March 3rd, 2019, 12:50 pm

Who'd have thought 27 countries would be more or less united while 1 country and the 2 main parties are tearing themselves apart.

What happens if they get an amendment through to remove No Deal?

If TM's deal then looses and vote to extend 29th March looses, then amendment will be worthless. I still think No Deal will break the government and end in a General Election if it happens.

29th March and No Deal default is primary legislation, not an amendment, and can only more primary legislation can overturn it, At least, that's how I understand it. Bad news imo but will keep you happier Dougie.

More good news for you Dougie. It looks like Norway+ is off the table for the time being, but if time extension happens....who knows?

More good news for you Tories, how the hell aren't Labour 15 points ahead in the polls?

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 30130Post Theadder4
March 3rd, 2019, 1:14 pm

27 countries all in agreement gareth,because its a good deal for them.if it wasnt they would be split.
A no deal hurts us ,a no deal hurts them,to me the best thing to do is for us to leave with a no deal,then all great around the table straight away,and work out a deal that suits all.
The negoiations over the last couple of years has been about them trying to get the best possible deal for themselfs and us trying to get the best deal for ourselfs, and they won (big time)
They had a bet to nothing,a freeroll,because they knew we wouldnt walk away with a no deal.
The deal thats on the table just now ,could (even though the EU say it wont come to that) keep us under EU control for decades to come,with the only way out to end up agreeing to all their conditions,immigration/movement of people/customs/markets etc.
I just can see the logic in people believing,we sign the deal on the table (even if they do tweak it a bit). Then in the next year or to we can reach an agreement that suits both us and the eu,if there was an agreement like that it would have been done already.
Only way to get a good fair deal is to leave with no deal ,and put a bit of pressure on them as well.
We running like turkeys just now,once we go off that cliff (if you believe that cliff crap they spouting) we will be soaring like eagles :D

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 30132Post silverfox46
March 3rd, 2019, 2:34 pm

So there are 3 votes t/w/th 1/accept the deal, 2/ leave with no deal and 3/ extend the 29th deadline, There are calls from Labour and some remoaners for another "peoples vote", what happens if its still leave or even remain, is it best of 3 or 5 then? which would take months to arrange, so more delays which harms jobs and business. If this shower of shite carn't agree in the last 2 years, what chance of it happening with an extension? just get the fuck out NOW and take our chances FFS. Just hope when the next election takes place people have a long memory. :bang: :bang: :bang:

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 30136Post T8MML
March 3rd, 2019, 4:50 pm

silverfox46 wrote:
March 3rd, 2019, 2:34 pm
So there are 3 votes t/w/th 1/accept the deal, 2/ leave with no deal and 3/ extend the 29th deadline, There are calls from Labour and some remoaners for another "peoples vote", what happens if its still leave or even remain, is it best of 3 or 5 then? which would take months to arrange, so more delays which harms jobs and business. If this shower of shite carn't agree in the last 2 years, what chance of it happening with an extension? just get the fuck out NOW and take our chances FFS. Just hope when the next election takes place people have a long memory. :bang: :bang: :bang:
I hope they have foxy

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 30137Post Marky147
March 3rd, 2019, 4:56 pm

Hope they keep voting until we remain :twisted: :hide:

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 30138Post T8MML
March 3rd, 2019, 6:12 pm

Marky147 wrote:
March 3rd, 2019, 4:56 pm
Hope they keep voting until we remain :twisted: :hide:
Ain’t gonna happen mate. It’s a British thing to say “we’ve fkd up, we’re gonna fk up but at least but we don’t need to re-evaluate now we know the truth, we voted for it and that’s democracy”

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Re: Brexit

Post: # 30139Post Marky147
March 3rd, 2019, 6:26 pm

T8MML wrote:
March 3rd, 2019, 6:12 pm
Marky147 wrote:
March 3rd, 2019, 4:56 pm
Hope they keep voting until we remain :twisted: :hide:
Ain’t gonna happen mate. It’s a British thing to say “we’ve fkd up, we’re gonna fk up but at least but we don’t need to re-evaluate now we know the truth, we voted for it and that’s democracy”
It's fun watching Dougie and Foxy seeth, though :clap:

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